Two fathers. Two remarkable Hollywood careers. And two stories forever linked by M*A*S*H and the Hollywood blacklist. James Lardner and Zan Dubin join Jeff & Ryan to share the stories of their fathers, Ring Lardner Jr., Oscar-winning screenwriter of the film, and Charles S. Dubin, who directed more episodes of the TV series than anyone else. Through the eyes of their children, we explore their fathers’ careers, their experiences during the Hollywood blacklist, and the lasting impact of two men who refused to let it define them.

Ring Lardner, Jr. leaving a House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) hearing in October 1947.

Charles S. Dubin testifying before the HUAC in June 1958

Meet “The Hollywood Ten”

Watch Ring Lardner, Jr. accept the Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay at the 1971 Academy Awards

Watch an interview with Charles S. Dubin

Learn More About…

We Are Your Neighbors is a collection of reflections from diverse Americans about how recent political developments have reshaped their lives. James Lardner serves as Project Director.

Third Act is a nonprofit founded by renowned environmentalist Bill McKibben which mobilizes climate and democracy activists over the age of 60. James & Zan are both members. 

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“Incidentally, if you’re ever in Toledo, Ohio, on the Hungarian side of town, Tony Packo’s, greatest Hungarian hot dogs, with chili peppers, 35 cents, and a cold beer!”

– Corporal Max Klinger in “The Interview.”

Jeff & Ryan welcome Tony Packo’s official historian, Jim Beard, to MASH Matters. Jim is the curator of the new Tony Packo’s Museum Tour at the original location in Toledo. We discuss Packo’s history, Jamie Farr’s impact, the restaurant’s relationship with M*A*S*H, how the museum came to be, and whether Creamed Weenies will ever be on the menu.

Learn more about Tony Packo’s Museum Tour

Jamie Farr schools Alan Alda on the proper way to dress a Tony Packo’s Hungarian hot dog on the set of M*A*S*H.

Watch news coverage of Tony Packo’s M*A*S*H finale party

Enjoy a full-length concert by the Cakewalkin’ Jass Band at Tony Packo’s

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Jeff & Ryan return with a fresh batch of listener questions. Topics include editing for syndication, cement floors, continuity issues, Shelley Fabares, spare-time hobbies, Sgt. Zale selling cereal, single-camera vs. multi-camera, and a look behind the scenes of making the podcast.

Watch Johnny Haymer (aka Sgt. Zale) do his best Harold Hill in this 1978 commercial for C.W. Post cereal

Take a deep dive into the history of M*A*S*H in syndication on MASH4077TV.com

Alan Alda and his single camera

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Seriously, isn’t there anyone else who can do this?

Attention! Attention! All Personnel! Sal Viscuso is back on MASH Matters! This time around, we talk about Sal’s paintings, including a special M*A*S*H-related piece of art! We discuss Sal’s artwork, process, inspiration, and how art and acting intermix. Plus, keep scrolling to see how you can own one of Sal’s art prints! 

“ATTENTION ATTENTION” by SAL VISCUSO

Purchase Sal’s original M*A*S*H print by emailing:

salpepperland@gmail.com

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Original Artwork & Commisions also available

Sal Viscuso Original Artwork

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